Fnatic.NA decides to change roster

posted by LooLooCakes, 1 year ago
Following the trend of roster upheavals in the competitive Dota 2 scene, one more team is looking to change things up. The team in question is the North American division of Fnatic, us Fnatic.NA. They have released four of their players and hope to form a new team around us Jonathan 'SMURF' Gorriz.




Fnatic management cites the team instability caused by recent roster changes and the lack of convincing results as reasons why they took this decision.

In the three months since the team formed by picking up the roster playing at the time under the name of Josh Tabak Dota, they have attended the 3rd Season of The Defense as well as NEO Dota's Killing Spree, with unremarkable results and a win rate of only 18%.

After us Josh 'tabako' Tabak and us Roland 'Rolo' Tarrazo left the team due to busy schedules and personal issues respectively, us Fnatic.NA was forced to play with stand-ins and their results didn't seem to improve.

However, tensions broke out when players us Bryant 'whiteBeard' Lehwald and us Erik 'DurpDurp' Kamerling leaked Skype conversations they had with their manager Elroy Pinto. Through a forum post on NADota, us DurpDurp complained about the lack of communication in the organization and accused favoritism towards his fellow teammate, us SMURF.

us Fnatic.NA released a statement from manager Elroy Pinto in which he offers his side of the story and shares the future plans of the organization.

As a professional organisation we need to make sure we ensure a certain level was maintained. Certain tough decisions had to be taken and we believe in Smurf as he shares the ideals of fnatic, we're glad to work with him in the future. We will definitely rebuild our team and continue with NA dota in fnatic. A special thanks to everyone who has been supportive of fnatic, we really believe there's a good talent pool in the NA scene that needs the exposure that Fnatic can provide. Few organisations want to invest into small teams and it's important that someone does


The full statement can be read on Fnatic's official website.

The organization is actively looking to reform a roster and the new team is expected to be released in the coming weeks. JoinDOTA will keep you updated once the official announcement is made.


Sources: NADota Forums, Fnatic


#1
Tpimp wrote at 22.01.2013, 21:37 CET:
LOL!
#2
SuperMorten wrote at 22.01.2013, 21:39 CET:
Dafuq
#3
Paradise.- wrote at 22.01.2013, 21:43 CET:
So it was right, there were favoritism and now they paly around SMURF?
#4
EnanoMaldito wrote at 22.01.2013, 21:48 CET:
"the team was going fairly well until we decided to introduce these kids together as we had always expressed interest in them getting to know each other in real life". Really Fnatic? Refering to people and your previous players as 'these kids'??!?!

That is wrong, so, so wrong.
#5
wrote at 22.01.2013, 21:49 CET:
Thank god Fnatic.EU has Street :D
Which is probably the best Manager EU :D

edited by reesionissocute at 22.01.2013, 21:57 CET
#6
Ashella wrote at 22.01.2013, 22:00 CET:
"these kids" .... "As a professional organisation we need to make sure we ensure a certain level was maintained. "

You're not doing a very good job of it. Also, organizations seem very quick to sack their teams... especially considering that NA is their Academy team.
#7
CatCh. wrote at 22.01.2013, 22:06 CET:
Doesn't sound like a manager worth having anyways.
#8
Miyagi-sama wrote at 22.01.2013, 22:07 CET:
PGG influences (?)
#9
MaDCaTxDota wrote at 22.01.2013, 22:33 CET:
What Fnatic.NA has gone through lately (roster instability, on-and-off results etc.) is exactly what Fnatic.EU used to witness since their very early incarnation, and most of us would still remeber how bad n0tail and Fly was back then (by 'bad' I mean really bad). And instead of blowing up the whole thing and put the team in a turmoil, Fnatic did put so much effort and patience towards the team and thanks to that H4nni & co. has reach the stature of a real force to be reckoned with in the NA/EU scene.
And now they are doing this to Fnatic.NA. What a HUGE shame. Esports can never be seen as a serious industry if ppl involved do not even take it serious themselves.
#10
Syyynd wrote at 22.01.2013, 22:34 CET:
reesionissocute wrote:
Thank god Fnatic.EU has Street :D
Which is probably the best Manager EU :D


QFT times infinity
#11
Nyt wrote at 22.01.2013, 23:01 CET:
MaDCaTxDota wrote:
What Fnatic.NA has gone through lately (roster instability, on-and-off results etc.) is exactly what Fnatic.EU used to witness since their very early incarnation, and most of us would still remeber how bad n0tail and Fly was back then (by 'bad' I mean really bad). And instead of blowing up the whole thing and put the team in a turmoil, Fnatic did put so much effort and patience towards the team and thanks to that H4nni & co. has reach the stature of a real force to be reckoned with in the NA/EU scene.
And now they are doing this to Fnatic.NA. What a HUGE shame. Esports can never be seen as a serious industry if ppl involved do not even take it serious themselves.

While I agree organisations should be more patient, this is not comparable, fnatic.eu were such monsters in hon it was pretty obvious it was only a matter of time. Plus they knew they could trust the players since they've been with them for so long.
#12
schapes wrote at 22.01.2013, 23:07 CET:
MaDCaTxDota wrote:
What Fnatic.NA has gone through lately (roster instability, on-and-off results etc.) is exactly what Fnatic.EU used to witness since their very early incarnation, and most of us would still remeber how bad n0tail and Fly was back then (by 'bad' I mean really bad). And instead of blowing up the whole thing and put the team in a turmoil, Fnatic did put so much effort and patience towards the team and thanks to that H4nni & co. has reach the stature of a real force to be reckoned with in the NA/EU scene.
And now they are doing this to Fnatic.NA. What a HUGE shame. Esports can never be seen as a serious industry if ppl involved do not even take it serious themselves.


fnatic eu were still pretty decent when they came to dota 2 they actually put up a really good fight aganst some of the top teams at the time not to mention that they were actually winnng a decent amount of games even if it was against lower tier teams.

also bagging out your manager in a skype call when your not even producing results isn't so smart
#13
MaDCaTxDota wrote at 22.01.2013, 23:13 CET:
Nyt wrote:
While I agree organisations should be more patient, this is not comparable, fnatic.eu were such monsters in hon it was pretty obvious it was only a matter of time. Plus they knew they could trust the players since they've been with them for so long.


Well then they decided to pick up a vastly unknown team (Josh Tabak basically had no outstanding achievement back then) without even looking forward to a stable improvement; which is even more questionable.
Even if they have to resort to disbanding the team, the way that they resolved and presented the case is downright shameful.
Oh and Potm Bottom (now Dignitas) turned down Fnatic's offer earlier just becuz they don't accept PB's manager (Monolith) to be in charge, which is stupid.
#14
Ratel wrote at 22.01.2013, 23:17 CET:
"...it's a bit high handed of them to think they can get away with this. ", "..these kids.."
one of the most immature managers I've seen.
mark my words, their next roster will suck as well with that attitude.

edited by Ratel at 22.01.2013, 23:57 CET
#15
dankius wrote at 23.01.2013, 00:50 CET:
first hand example to why na dota is bad, wonder if people are gonna get it through their heads.
#16
AirWonder wrote at 23.01.2013, 01:56 CET:
I'd be an ass too if my name was elroy pinto
#17
hyfreD wrote at 23.01.2013, 05:42 CET:
MaDCaTxDota wrote:
What Fnatic.NA has gone through lately (roster instability, on-and-off results etc.) is exactly what Fnatic.EU used to witness since their very early incarnation, and most of us would still remeber how bad n0tail and Fly was back then (by 'bad' I mean really bad). And instead of blowing up the whole thing and put the team in a turmoil, Fnatic did put so much effort and patience towards the team and thanks to that H4nni & co. has reach the stature of a real force to be reckoned with in the NA/EU scene.
And now they are doing this to Fnatic.NA. What a HUGE shame. Esports can never be seen as a serious industry if ppl involved do not even take it serious themselves.


the EU fnatic team are HoN GODS , these NA kids are nobody that is why there is a different treatment for both teams
#18
wrote at 23.01.2013, 06:09 CET:
well fnatic NA and ROOT are a joke too the pro scene just cause they are top 4 in NA(out of 4 teams) doesnt mean they have anything too contribute in EUROPE!
#19
wrote at 23.01.2013, 06:51 CET:
MaDCaTxDota wrote:
What Fnatic.NA has gone through lately (roster instability, on-and-off results etc.) is exactly what Fnatic.EU used to witness since their very early incarnation, and most of us would still remeber how bad n0tail and Fly was back then (by 'bad' I mean really bad). And instead of blowing up the whole thing and put the team in a turmoil, Fnatic did put so much effort and patience towards the team and thanks to that H4nni & co. has reach the stature of a real force to be

reckoned with in the NA/EU scene.
And now they are doing this to Fnatic.NA. What a HUGE shame. Esports can never be seen as a serious industry if ppl involved do not even take it serious themselves.


You do realize that N0tail and Fly has been in Fnatic for 3 years with their manager Street, and not one moron expected them to be N1 in 2 weeks (which is it seemed you dotards thought they would)

And no fnatic.eu didn't change roaster every other day, they are probably the most stable one in dota and have been together the most.

If you followed them in HoN they always used H4nn1/Era and maybe Scandal as stand ins but pretty much noone else.
#20
Maldin wrote at 23.01.2013, 08:32 CET:
If the team didn't get along in real life, there wasn't much future for them as Fnatic tends to put focus on lan tournaments.

Comparing Fnatic.eu and Fnatic.na is just wrong as other team has been with the organization for 3 years and other for three months.

It was obvious that they will give EU as long as they needed to become a top dog as everyone knew their talent from hon and inexperience in Dota. I don't believe they were ever even frustrated by EUs performance as they developed so much faster than anticipated - ahead of schedule for sure.
#21
Krjal wrote at 23.01.2013, 10:31 CET:
The GD Studio's appraisal of the situation seemed pretty apt.
#22
ASX430 wrote at 23.01.2013, 14:13 CET:
LOL Good for Fnatic they finally realised how much of a joke Fnatic.NA was...
#23
wrote at 24.01.2013, 19:48 CET:
Maldin wrote:
If the team didn't get along in real life, there wasn't much future for them as Fnatic tends to put focus on lan tournaments.
Comparing Fnatic.eu and Fnatic.na is just wrong as other team has been with the organization for 3 years and other for three months.
It was obvious that they will give EU as long as they needed to become a top dog as everyone knew their talent from hon and inexperience in Dota. I don't believe they were ever even frustrated by EUs performance as they developed so much faster than anticipated - ahead of schedule for sure.


3 months? They have been together as a team for waaaaay longer.
#24
Sllug wrote at 25.01.2013, 05:35 CET:
AAHAHAHAHA Smurf was awful with his new friends against Liquid. The old team had some school schedule issues, yet this new roster is made up of children.
Hannah Montana deserves better and koreya is nice enough but in no way a great player.
Good job FnaticNA, really fucked yourselves on this one.

Note to other organisations: The guy with the biggest mouth ( smurf on Fnatic ) is usually the worst player.
#25
roodpart wrote at 27.01.2013, 13:49 CET:
Didn't even know they had those players they used standins so often..

Seriously, it's just been a giant mess from the start...
 

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