Gaming houses boycott Artstyle

posted by TobiWanKenobi, 2 years ago
For the first time in the history of Dota, a member of the community ua Ivan 'Artstyle' Antonov is boycotted by some of the largest gaming houses in Russia and Ukraine. In a time where eSports is looking to become recognised as a respectable industry in the world, one player has been deemed by the top teams of CIS as too much of a negative influence to this goal.


While this will become a large topic for many the voices who are the loudest are the team managers of ArtStyle's old teams. The following are highlights of the article available on ProDOTA.ru.

A Statement from the team manager of Na'Vi ua Alexander 'ZeroGravity' Kochanowsk :

He could not just come to the tournament or the team photo session in Kiev and don't even warn us about it. The man simply does not answer his phone or turned it off instead. He then, invented dozens of ridiculous reasons and blame the organization for everything.

Now I am once again convinced of his dishonesty and incompetence in relation to cyber organizations.


A Statement from the team manager of DTS ua Maxim 'XPEH' Dyakonyuk :
DTS-Gaming, certainly gave Ivan a start in life in terms of DotA. It is with DTS he achieved a level that allowed him to become one of the best captains and players in the world. However, this did not prevent his escape from DTS 2010

A year later, I decided to resume relations with Ivan. The result is well known to all. After speaking at a single LAN, Ivan completely froze, even though I knew that he simply "did not want to talk." Now I see the same situation with the M5. As they say, "Stop and make a stand!".

From now on, the organization of DTS-Gaming, Portal prodota.ru and all future projects that are being prepared for launch in 2012 - are boycotting Ivan "Artstyle" Antonov, his team and the organization in which he will act. We must show the community that there are certain rules of human interaction, to be followed.


While the managers are having their say, ru Yaroslav 'NS' Kuznetsov speaks out against the decision. He had many things to say on the matter but what summarizes his thoughts the best is the last sentence he stated:

I sincerely ask all of you to stop this senseless farce


This is very unfamilar ground for the world of Dota and just how this influences the conduct of players and teams in the future is as of yet, unknown. What is known is that if a player that has the accomplishments of ArtStyle, those accomplishments will not protect him from the expectations of sponsors, organizations, and the community.


Sources: ProDOTA.ru Announcement

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#51
SerAphAYne wrote at 01.02.2012, 12:11 CET:
hehe well deserved ban to a disrespectful, arrogant and reality absent douchebag. But entire TOURNAMENTS needs to ban him. That might put some sense in him.
#52
c0pper wrote at 01.02.2012, 12:37 CET:
Can someone who can read russion please confirm what I got from the translator:

M5 wants 10% of the prizemoney their players will earn in the future. -> The players (including artstyle) do not agree and will maybe form a new team. Artstyle may have persuaded them to do so if I read that correct?

This certainly is not nice, but this boycott seems rather childish. They should have just negotiated again on the contracts or the M5 manager should not have paid them the trip without making a conctract in the first place.
#53
FunkyQ wrote at 01.02.2012, 12:56 CET:
c0pper wrote:
Can someone who can read russion please confirm what I got from the translator:

M5 wants 10% of the prizemoney their players will earn in the future. -> The players (including artstyle) do not agree and will maybe form a new team. Artstyle may have persuaded them to do so if I read that correct?

This certainly is not nice, but this boycott seems rather childish. They should have just negotiated again on the contracts or the M5 manager should not have paid them the trip without making a conctract in the first place.


Yep.
This is not full article and most important missing . And thats why its funny to read comments from guys who dont understand )
#54
SUP- wrote at 01.02.2012, 13:18 CET:
to hell with you , xD ... JK
#55
hardandfunky wrote at 01.02.2012, 13:25 CET:
Damn it seems like Artstyle is pretty screwed up. It is pretty understandable, as I saw in his interview that he's pretty rude and cocky after the win in The International. But boycotting the whole team or organisation he's in seems to be a little too much.
#56
Invoker wrote at 01.02.2012, 13:31 CET:
ArtStyle not answering his phone -> boycott him :D thats the most ridiciolus thing I hav ever read in esports history. Zerogravity and XPEH showing professionalism. NOT
#57
Daraven wrote at 01.02.2012, 13:32 CET:
I think this is the right decision, sure all the fanboys of artstyle will comment "meh all bad" but in a professional way this really is right. Players need to change their mindset about professional play, they get sponsorships, get pricemoney but they dont behave like professionals.
#58
preachers wrote at 01.02.2012, 13:39 CET:
ban because artstyle refuse to join in imbalance prize pool? kinda retarted!

v1lat supp artstyle and also cyberarena

http://vk.com/wall-33964060_8521
#59
Highfive wrote at 01.02.2012, 14:01 CET:
i really like this , artstyle most overrated player in dota right now and he seems to be arrogant and unproffesional aswell , even the fact that he is without a doubt a really good captain/player , if his humanity is so bad , he really deserves this
#60
wint3r wrote at 01.02.2012, 14:10 CET:
Hi guys,

I haven't read all 170+ pages of "flame" in the topic about discussion of this boycott's reasons, but let me tell u how i understand this situation:
Artstyle unofficially joined to M5 and played last matches, but it wasn't announced coz they hadn't signed contracts yet. So few days ago Artstyle told to M5's boss his conditions - he would join, but not alone - he would bring Darer as a partner and the Darer wants to get 10 % of winning prize. M5's boss wasn't agree, so Artstyle left and other M5 teammates(NS, God, Dread, Santa) left with him too, becouse their contracts with M5 were outdated at 1th of January this year. That got M5's boss angry and he annoynced this boycott and asked other organisations to support him.

I hope I got this right:)

EDIT: Likely, there will be a "Skype-show" where Artstyle, God and other teammates will explain their point of view. Well, time will show!

edited by wint3r at 01.02.2012, 14:32 CET
#61
xRdR wrote at 01.02.2012, 14:28 CET:
wint3r wrote:
Hi guys,

I haven't read all 170+ pages of "flame" in the topic about discussion of this boycott's reasons, but let me tell u how i understand this situation:
Artstyle unofficially joined to M5 and played last matches, but it wasn't announced coz they hadn't signed contracts yet. So few days ago Artstyle told to M5's boss his conditions - he would join, but not alone - he would bring Darer as a partner and the Darer wants to get 10 % of winning prize. M5's boss wasn't agree, so Artstyle left and other M5 teammates(NS, God, Dread, Santa) left with him too, becouse their contracts with M5 were outdated at 1th of January this year. That got M5's boss angry and he annoynced this boycott and asked other organisations to support him.

I hope I got this right:)


You're almost right. It was M5's boss who wanted 10% of prize money. Artstyle persuaded the other 4 players not to sign contract like this and they left M5 with him. M5's boss realized that he actually lost his entire dota team and there is noone who can replace them. So he backstabbed them by announcing the boycott. That's kinda low.

moscowfive.ru This site is dead.
#62
c0pper wrote at 01.02.2012, 14:31 CET:
I have no idea if 10% is too high, average or really low? Can someone tell me what the standard % is, or if there even is one in other teams?
#63
dfs wrote at 01.02.2012, 14:35 CET:
This is bullshit. "Look, this guy, Artstyle, he is bad, very very bad, lets boycot him"
These "professional managers" will apologise for this nonsense.

edited by dfs at 01.02.2012, 14:41 CET
#64
LuckyOne wrote at 01.02.2012, 14:37 CET:
V1lat:" this is BEYOND RETARDED!" +1
#65
wint3r wrote at 01.02.2012, 14:40 CET:
@ xRdR Indeed, you are right, 10% to M5. Thx for remark!
#66
Loqo wrote at 01.02.2012, 15:17 CET:
I just can say !wat du fak! is going on here.
#67
villainsinker wrote at 01.02.2012, 15:32 CET:
This is so. i don't even know. XPEH is a douche bag every body should know. dts disbanded because of him.
#68
BullDoGe wrote at 01.02.2012, 15:44 CET:
Tobi, it was very lamentably to see only a little part of the article. Thanks to some users who added news, especially about words of M5's manager Dmitry 'ddd1ms' Smelyi. He was very disappointed about unwillingness of ArtStyle to pay 10% of prizemoney. At this time Artsyle's sponsor Darer has a great desire for make his own dota team, God, Ns, Santa, Dread have no choice between staying in M5 without any opportunity to find as good player as Ivan and to try their best with Darer and Ivan-Balanar.
So, waiting for new great team with a tag of Darer and such a stars roster.
#69
Dutch_Freak wrote at 01.02.2012, 15:48 CET:
How dumb. Yeah lets boycott the most entertaining dota player who did so much for dota! Jezus...

What if the public would boycott DTS?! harr harr

I realy dont get this, wtf dts?

Ofc there is something going on with artstyle, but to me it seems as his behavior is involuntary. Its like banning a dyslectic kid for not reading properly.

*(these thoughts are my own and do not represent JD)

edited by Dutch_Freak at 01.02.2012, 15:54 CET
#70
telerez wrote at 01.02.2012, 16:02 CET:
haters!
#71
Agent_Orange wrote at 01.02.2012, 16:11 CET:
He should play on china too like iverson..LOL..both have attitudes...
#72
paskoww wrote at 01.02.2012, 16:26 CET:
"The most entertaining dota player ? The best dota player atm ?"

Jeez, Artstyle is so frikkin overrated.
I cant understand the big fuzz about all this.
#73
KulterBaun wrote at 01.02.2012, 16:50 CET:
Never liked him seemed to be a real douche in that interview.
#74
potheadjeypi wrote at 01.02.2012, 16:51 CET:
Seems to me he just don't want the "showbiz" of it all. Photographs and press conferences.. the whole nine yards.

Artstyle is a legendary captain and no one can take that away from him. He and the teams he's been a part of has achieved feats of epic proportion comparable to only a select few. But apparently he has an issue with regards to the "art of diplomacy and politicking", and him not being the "people-person" kinda guy didn't help his cause at all. Great minds think alike, but not all of them are sane.
#75
forser wrote at 01.02.2012, 16:59 CET:
new team coming soon : DARER: ARTSYLE, NS , DREAD, GOD, SANTA
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